thanks to Hakka bros. for the general public to access this type of mixer at a price that you don't have to get a second mortgage for. I puchased the 10 qt. spiral last year. this company is good to work with. the only negatives i have to say is that i thought it would be more quiet than it is, and the timer is not a count-down timer. you set it and can't see remainder of time as mixer is operating.